LDC-UDC Issues – CG Staff News https://cgstaffnews.in Gazetted Holiday List ✓ Restricted Holiday List ✓ School Holiday List ✓ Election Holidy List ✓ Court Holiday List Fri, 05 Jul 2019 08:17:18 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 https://cgstaffnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cropped-cgstaffnews-logo-32x32.jpg LDC-UDC Issues – CG Staff News https://cgstaffnews.in 32 32 Abolition of 85% post falling vacant meant for direct recruitment in the grade of JSA (erstwhile LDC) https://cgstaffnews.in/abolition-of-85-post-falling-vacant-meant-for-direct-recruitment-in-the-grade-of-jsa-erstwhile-ldc/ https://cgstaffnews.in/abolition-of-85-post-falling-vacant-meant-for-direct-recruitment-in-the-grade-of-jsa-erstwhile-ldc/#respond Fri, 06 May 2016 09:23:30 +0000 http://www.cgstaffnews.in/?p=6175 Read more]]> Abolition of 85% post falling vacant meant for direct recruitment in the grade of JSA(erstwhile LDC)

No. 13/3/2016-CS.II(B)
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions
Department of Personnel and Training
(CS.II Division)

3rd Floor, Lok Nayak Bhawan,
Khan Market, New Delhi – 110 003.
Dated: 5th May, 2016.

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject: Abolition of 85% post falling vacant meant for direct recruitment in the grade of JSA(erstwhile LDC)-reg.

In pursuance of DoP&T’s O.M. No. 9/2/2003-CS-ll dated 20th April, 2005, it was decided to abolish 85% of the posts falling vacant on or after 03-10-2003 meant for direct recruitment quota in the grade of JSA(erstwhile LDC) of CSCS. The said decision was taken by the Cabinet after considering the recommendations of the report of First Cadre Restructuring of CSS.

2. However, it is observed that though a number of the cadre units have achieved the target of abolition of 85% of the posts falling vacant on or after 03-10-2003 meant for direct recruitment in the grade of JSA(erstwhile LDC) of CSCS every year. Some cadre units as shown in Annexure still have to achieve the target.

3. The Ministries/Departments shown in the Annexure are requested to take necessary action to abolish the remaining posts immediately and furnish a compliance report to DoP&T by 13th May, 2016 along-with a copy of the Office Order of the number of posts abolished. The deadline may please be strictly adhered to.

Encls: Annexure.

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(Rajesh Sarswat)
Under Secretary to the Govt. of India

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LDC – UDC Grade Pay Issue in 7th Pay Commission https://cgstaffnews.in/ldc-udc-grade-pay-issue-in-7th-pay-commission/ https://cgstaffnews.in/ldc-udc-grade-pay-issue-in-7th-pay-commission/#comments Tue, 01 Dec 2015 04:51:01 +0000 http://www.cgstaffnews.in/?p=3994 Read more]]> LDC – UDC Grade Pay Issue in 7th Pay Commission

This Association has taken up the LDC/UDC, MACP on Promotional Hierarchy, and other issues related to Administrative Staff with Confederation. Copy of the letter sent to the Secretary General, Confederation is given below: All our LDC/UDC friends are requested to raise the issue in their respective Association to force them to represent the issue to Confederation/JCM Staff Side.

ALL INDIA ASSOCIATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF (NG)
MINISTRY OF STATISTICS AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION

Bhopal,
Dated 25/11/2015

To

Com. M Krishnan,
Secretary General,
Confederation of Central Government Employees & Workers,
New Delhi

Dear comrade,

This is in connection with LDC/UDC, MACP on Promotional hierarchy and other issues related to Administrative Staff of Subordinate offices. It is surprising to note that the 7th Pay Commission has turned down the genuine issue of LDC & UDC on the ground that the government has stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents. If this is true, it is a matter of great concern that the Government has chosen to take a unilateral decision on an important policy matter without consulting the Staff side. The reason given for rejection of the demand is not convincing.

Besides Confederation/Staff Side JCM, several Departments had recommended upgradation of grade pay of LDC & UDC of Administrative Offices especially the LDC & UDCs of subordinate offices of Government of India.

Extracts of the Pay Commission comments on the matter is given below:

By analyzing the demand of SVP, National Police Academy under Para 11.22.100 the Commission has said “This issue has been dealt in Chapter 7.7. Recommendations made there would apply in this case also”
As against the demand of Directorate of Printing under Para 11.52.32 Commission maintained that “posts like LDC, UDC, Accountant are common to a number of ministries/ departments. Recommendations regarding their pay are contained in Chapter 7.7 and Chapter 11.35.”

But, in Chapter 7.7, deals common category, no recommendation for LDC/UDC is given.
However by recording disagreement to increase promotional quota of MTS to LDC under Para 7.7.37 & 11.35.28 Commission has said that “government has already stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, this demand cannot be accepted.”

But the fact is that Staff Selection Commission is frequently conducting recruitment for the post of LDC. Combined higher secondary examination for the selection of LDC also has been conducted recently. Moreover, no alternative recommendation to replace the LDC post is given in the report. It is to be noted that the normal ratio of LDC and UDC in subordinate offices is 5:2 and thus LDCs have been allocated responsible sections and in many smaller offices LDC alone is handling the work of entire Administration.

On the other hand rejecting Central Secretariat Clerical service demand for parity with DEO, the commission observes “Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.”(Para 11.35.38).

Historically these cadres may be different set of roles but the fact is that functions of LDC are more complex than that of DEO and same was brought before the commission by various Associations/Administrative Authorities. Earlier pay Commissions have fixed Pay Scale to DEO considering their work on computer. But today LDCs are selected on the basis of their expertise in computer operation also.

By concluding the LDC issue, I give hereunder two comments among the dozens of comments/e-mail received us on the subject. This signifies the sufferings of LDCs in subordinate offices.

(1) I am really disappointed with the decision of 7th CPC, I was hoping that I would get atleast GP 2400 as per their calculation, they don’t even think about lower classMyself Ashutosh, LDC and I am appointed on 2012, 3000 KM far from my house and from last 2 years I am doing the work of cashier along with all the work of Income Tax and budget, apart from me 4 more LDC’s are working here instead of UDC’s and they are the backbone of their branch but as per 7th CPC words we are not having as much responsible work they think LDC’s are recruits only for “dispatch” and “typing” which is not true.

I request to them, sir please come and see how much responsibility we have and what we are getting,
(2) I am s murugan LDC, handling with pay bills, income tax, TDS and what are related to taxable income such as LTC encashment, final bills, HRA claim and etc…
In 7th Cpc report every where it is stated that this is dealt with chapter 7.7 and 11.35. But, there are no clear instructions for clerical.
The major error is clerical cadre is not included in common categories (chapter 7).

II Grant of MACP on Promotional Hierarchy:
Even though the Confederation has clarified that the Commission has recommended MACP on promotional hierarchy, the report of the Commission is confusing and contradictory. Para 5.1.44 reads in the new Pay matrix, the employees will move to the immediate next level in the hierarchy. This can be interpreted as fixation in the same principle as that for a regular promotion. But Para 11.52.45 is contradictory.

III The Grade Pay of Assistants/Stenographers of Central Secretariat is brought down to Rs. 4200 from the existing Rs. 4600 and NFSG granted to the UDCs of Central Secretariat has been withdrawn thereby the demand for parity with the Grade Pay of Assistant/UDC of Central Secretariat is turned down.

Comrades, Government is bent upon to contractorise all the Administrative posts below the post of Assistants. The demand for merger of Grade Pay of LDC & UDC and upgradation to Rs. 2800, as recommended by the staff side is genuine in accordance with duties assigned. Confederation/JCM (Staff Side) is requested to please help LDC/UDC and other Administrative Staff of subordinate Offices to resolve these genuine issues.

Yours fraternally

TKR Pillai
General Secretary

Source : AIAMSHQ

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7th Pay Commission : LDC – UDC Issue – Government Stand Reiterated https://cgstaffnews.in/7th-pay-commission-ldc-udc-issue-government-stand-reiterated/ https://cgstaffnews.in/7th-pay-commission-ldc-udc-issue-government-stand-reiterated/#respond Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:22:38 +0000 http://www.cgstaffnews.in/?p=3947 Read more]]> 7TH PAY COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION

LDC-UDC ISSUE-GOVERNMENT STAND REITERATED

On the issue of LDC/UDC 7th Pay Commission reiterated the deceiving stand of the Government. Despite of realizing the issue as genuine, Government had not taken a positive decision at their level. The tens of thousands of LDC & UDC, solely responsible for the smooth running of many of the subordinate offices, were hoping that 7th Pay Commission will study the problem faced by them and take a positive decision. Staff Side JCM having convinced the importance of the issue, had also recommended merger & upgradation of the Grade Pay of LDC & UDC to Rs. 2800. But here we see that 7th Pay Commission has not taken any decision on the issue except giving some confusing and misleading statements to vindicate the stand taken by the Government as true. Extracts of some of their views on LDC UDC issue spread over various chapters of the reports is given below:

Higher GP 2400 to LDC and consequent upgradation of pay for other civilian posts in the Ministerial hierarchy.

11.22.100 The Academy has urged that LDC should be placed in higher GP 2400 as against the existing GP 1900 at par with grade pay of Data Entry Operator (DEO), on the grounds that both LDC and DEO enter service on the basis of same educational qualification i.e., Class XII and that the functions of LDC are more complex than that of a DEO. This issue has been dealt in Chapter 7.7. Recommendations made there would apply in this case also.

11.52.32 They have demanded upgradation in pay of certain category of non-industrial posts viz., LDC, UDC, Accountant, Junior Head Clerk, Head Clerk, Office Superintendent and Assistant Manager (Admin).

Analysis and Recommendations
11.52.33 The Commission has not received the views of the ministry/department on the issue. However, posts like LDC, UDC, Accountant are common to a number of ministries/ departments. Recommendations regarding their pay are contained in Chapter 7.7 and Chapter 11.35. The Commission does not find any justification for increase in pay scale of the other cadres.

But in Chapter 7.7 no direct recommendation except to decline the demand of LBSNAA to increase the promotional quota of MTS to LDC, is visible. The extract of Para 7.7.37 is give below:

Analysis and Recommendations
7.7.37 Looking at the qualification requirements and their job profile, the Commission does not recommend any changes in the pay structure or the promotional prospects of the MTS. Regarding MTS in Delhi Police, the Commission is of the view that since MTS is a common category, any special dispensation to MTS in Delhi Police is not justified. In so far as the MTS of LBSNAA are concerned, the Commission notes as per the recruitment rules for LDC, presently only 5 percent of MTS can get promoted to LDC through limited departmental examination. However, since the government has stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, their demand cannot be accepted.

LDCs
11.35.27 There are demands that 50 percent posts of LDCs be earmarked for filing up by promotion/departmental examination by MTS. It has been argued that the educational qualification for the post of MTS is Class X and they are recruited through SSC for performing the work of Peon, Mali, Cobbler, and Sweeper etc. Since most of the MTS join the post with higher qualification of Higher Secondary and Graduation, there is high rate of attrition in the MTS cadre.

Analysis and Recommendations
11.35.28 As per the recruitment rules for LDC, presently 5 percent of MTS can get promoted to LDC through limited departmental examination. Since government has already stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, this demand cannot be accepted. Moreover enhancement of promotional quota is an administrative matter to be considered by the relevant
administrative ministry.

Between the lines it can be read that the Government prevented the 7th Pay Commission to not consider the LDC/UDC issue positively and reiterated the wrong statement of the Government that that Government of India has stopped direct recruitment of LDC through Staff Selection as its recommendation. But the fact is that Staff Selection Commission is frequently conducting recruitment for the post of LDC and without the permission of the Government how they can done at their own. Combined higher secondary examination for the selection of LDC also has been conducted recently. If we take the intention of Government of phasing out the LDC post as true, then where is the alternative recommendation? Who will do the arduous work done by the young and energetic LDCs in the subordinate offices? It is to be noted that the normal ratio of LDC and UDC in subordinate offices is 5:2 and thus LDCs have been allocated responsible sections and in many smaller offices LDC alone is handling the work of entire Administration.

On the other hand rejecting Central Secretariat Clerical service demand of parity with DEO the commission observes “Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.”(Para 11.35.38).

Our view is that historically these cadres may be different set of roles but the fact is that functions of LDC are more complex than that of DEO and same was brought before the commission by various Associations/Administrative Authorities. Earlier pay Commissions have fixed Pay Scale to DEO considering their work on computer. But today LDCs are more expertise in computer than DEO for doing work in computer, but the demand of parity with DEO is rejected. Extract of Para 11.35.38 is given below:

Central Secretariat Clerical Service
11.35.38 The Central Secretariat Clerical Service (CSCS) consists of the following grades:
i. Upper Division Clerk (GP 2400)
ii. Lower Division Clerk (GP 1900)
LDC and Data Entry Operator (DEO)
11.35.39 It has been demanded that LDC of CSCS drawing pay in GP 1900 be placed in GP 2400 at par with the DEOs on the grounds that post VI CPC, the entry requirements for the two posts is almost similar.

Analysis and Recommendations
11.35.40 Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.

From the above it is clear that Government is adamant on not granting pay scale to LDC & UDCs in subordinate offices at par with the duties assigned to them. Even though the 7th CPC claimed that they have recommended pay scales on the principle of equal pay for equal work, the genuine issue of LDC/UDC is ignored. Thus we are forced to represent against the recommendation to the Government/JCM (Staff Side). All our LDC/UDC friends are requested to raise the issue in their respective Association/Office to force them to represent the issue to the implementation committee for consideration. Also please join all action programmes including strike action, called by the JCM (Staff Side), as published in this web site from time to time, to combat the situation.

TKR Pillai
General Secretary
Mob: 09425372172

Source: http://aiamshq.blogspot.in/

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Draft Extended Select List of 2003 in the UDC Grade- Status regarding. passing of typing test as envisaged in CSCS Rules, 1962 https://cgstaffnews.in/draft-extended-select-list-of-2003-in-the-udc-grade-status-regarding-passing-of-typing-test-as-envisaged-in-cscs-rules-1962/ https://cgstaffnews.in/draft-extended-select-list-of-2003-in-the-udc-grade-status-regarding-passing-of-typing-test-as-envisaged-in-cscs-rules-1962/#respond Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:08:54 +0000 http://www.cgstaffnews.in/?p=2917 Read more]]> No. 12/1/2011-CS.I1 (B) Government of Iildia
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions
Department of Personnel & Training
CS.II (B) Section

3rd Floor, Lok Nayak Bhawan
Khan Market, New Delhi-ll0003
Dated: 26th August, 2015

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject: Draft Extended Select List of 2003 in the UDC Grade- Status regarding. passing of typing test as envisaged in CSCS Rules, 1962

The undersigned is directed to refer to Department of Personnel and Training’s O.M. of even number dated 19th June, 2015 on the subject mentioned above vide which the draft extended Select List of 2003 in the UDC Grade was circulated for seeking comments of various
cadre units.

2. As per third Schedule ofCSCS Rules, 1962, the eligibility criterion for promotion to the grade ofUDC is as under:

“Officers of the Lower Division Grade in that cadre who have successfully completed the probation and have passed the typewriting test or have been exempted, in accordance with the procedure prescribed by the Central Government from passing it and who have rendered not less than eight years of approved service in that Grade and are within the range of seniority subject to rejection of the unfit”.

3. As per the eligibility criteria explained in para 2 above, the LDCs who had completed 8 years approved service as on 1.7.2003 and had passed the typewriting test or had been exempted from type test were eligible for inclusion in the Select List-2003 of UDC grade. Thus, those LDCs who had passed the type test or who were exempted from type test after 30.6.2004 (after the end of period of Select List 2003) were not eligible for inclusion in SL-2003 for UDC grade.

4. The grade of UDC is a de-centralised grade. It is, therefore, the duty of cadre units to check and verify the eligibility of officials before their cases are placed before respective DPCs and their promotion orders are issued. However, on compilation of data received from the cadre units, it has been observed that a number of officials have been appointed to the grade of UDC on the basis of Select List of 2003 in the •UDC Grade (extended) even though they.had not passed the type test on or before 30-06-2004 or were not exempted from the type test on or before 30-06-2004. All these officials should have been included in the Select List in which they have passed the type test or were exempted from the same.

5. All the cadre units are, therefore, requested to furnish the correct information about the officials who are included in SL-2003 (extended) but have passed the type test or were exempted from type test after 30-06-2004 latest by 31st August, 2015 positively at sarswat.rajesh13@nic.in so that Select List of 2003 in the UDC Grade may be finalized. In case of ‘nil’ information, cadre units are requested to intimate this division to that effect by the due date.

6. A copy of the Seniority List of the Grade of LDC as on 1.1.2004 may also be sent for finalization of seniority of the officials included in the Select List of 2003 (extended) in the UDC Grade.

Cadre Units of CSCS (As per annexure)

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(Rajesh Sarswat)
Under Secretary to the Govt. of India
Tel: 24654020

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MERGER AND UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY LDC & UDC – T.K.R. Pillai https://cgstaffnews.in/merger-and-upgradation-of-grade-pay-ldc-udc-t-k-r-pillai/ https://cgstaffnews.in/merger-and-upgradation-of-grade-pay-ldc-udc-t-k-r-pillai/#respond Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:30:37 +0000 http://www.cgstaffnews.in/?p=2829 Read more]]> MERGER AND UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY LDC & UDC – T.K.R. Pillai

T.K.R. Pillai, General Secretary of All India Association of Administrative Staff(Non Gazetted) expressed his view on an order recently published by DoPT regarding the chage of Nomenaclature of LDC and UDC in Central Secretariat. We reproduced the article and given for your ready reference…

CHANGE OF NOMENACLATURE OF LDC & UDC IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT

DOPT HAS DECIDED TO CHANGE THE NOMENCLATURE OF LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT OFFICES. BUT NOTHING IS HEARD IN RESPECT OF CHANGE OF NOMENCLATURE/MERGER OF LDCS AND UDCS OF SUBORDINATE OFFICES. IT IS TO BE NOTED THAT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE FINALIZATION OF 6TH PAY COMMISSION REPORT, GOVERNMENT HAD UPGRADED THE PAY SCALE OF THE ASSISTANT IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT FROM RS. 5500-9000 TO 6500-10500 THAT PAVED THEM TO GET AN EDGE OVER THE PAY OF THE ASSISTANTS OF SUBORDINATE OFFICES. LIKEWISE IT MAY BE A MOVE TO GIVE MORE BENEFITS TO THE LDC & UDCS OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT IN 7TH CPC.

IT IS TO BE NOTED THAT THIS ASSOCIATION HAS CONTINUOUSLY RAISING THE MERGER AND UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY LDC & UDC. THE CASE WAS SENT TO JCA SECTION WITH RECOMMENDATION BY THE DOPT BUT THE JCA RETURNED THE SAME TO DOPT WITH A REMARK THAT “THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF ANOMALY AND NO SUCH ITEM WAS BEFORE THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE” AND SUGGESTED THAT ESTABLISHMENT II MAY PROCESS THE CASES WITH THE CASE OF LDC & UDCS OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE. BUT DOPT HAS RETURNED THE CASE TO THIS ASSOCIATION WITH A DIRECTIVE TO TAKE UP THE SAME WITH MINISTRY OF FINANCE DIRECTLY.

IT IS WORTH TO MENTION HERE THAT JCA HAD RETURNED THE CASE WITH A PLEA THAT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF ANOMALY AND NO SUCH ITEM WAS BEFORE THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE. WHEREAS ON 9TH JUNE WHEN THE LAST MEETING OF THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE HELD, ITEM NO. 4 –”UPGRADATION OF PAY BAND AND GRADE PAY OF LDCS AND UDCS” WAS DISCUSSED. WHEN THERE WAS NO ITEM WAS PENDING WITH THE JCA, THEN HOW THIS ITEM SURFACED IN THE ANOMALY COMMITTEE MEETING. SIMILARLY THE CONCERNED OFFICER IN DOPT HAD ORALY INFORMED ME THAT THE CASE OF LDC & UDC WAS RETURNED BECAUSE HIS SECTION IS DEALING THE CASES OF LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT ONLY AND THE LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT HAD NOT DEMANDED THEIR PAY UP-GRADATION.

THE STATE OF LDCS POSTED IN SUBORDINATE OFFICES HAD DISCUSSED IN THIS WEBSITE SEVERAL TIMES. THEY ARE ALLOCATED WITH WORK WORTH TO BE ALLOCATED TO UDC/ASSISTANT AND IN MOST OF THE CASES OFFICERS ARE TAKING DECISION ON THE FILE PUT UP BY THE LDCS WHERE AS IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT SUCH FILES INITIATES BY UDC/ASSISTANT LEVEL. THUS IT IS HIGH TIME THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE A DECISION ON THE UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY AND NOMENCLATURE OF LDC & UDCS WORKING IN THE SUBORDINATE OFFICES BEFORE THE FINALIZATION OF PAY COMMISSION REPORT.

Change the name of posts of LDC, UDC and Assistants – Dopt Order

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